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montecristo412
03-11-2001, 02:48 AM
i just finished my second dnp cycle. i noticed great results, but my strength decreased a lot more this time than the first time at the same dosage. is this normal? i waited 3 weeks between the end of my first and the start of my second cycle. should i wait more time before doing my 3rd cycle?

lifetmpnx
03-11-2001, 04:55 PM
What are your dosages and what intervals are you taking it? Have you ever read any of the info "Animal" puts out on DNP? He has alot of helpfull hints on how to avoid all the annoying side effects as well as a dosing schedule that keeps you relatively comfortable. I never experienced and strength loss just feel unusually lethargic overall. You might also want to rotate the products you use, ie clen, DNP, T3. Keep them in rotation and the sides are less noticeable.
LIFE

montecristo412
03-11-2001, 08:00 PM
my dose is 400mg/day split into 200mg twice a day. this is a little over 4mg/kg-bw for me. i only did it for 10 days this cycle instead of 14 days like the first one because of how weak i got. my diet stayed the exact same as last time and i even did less cardio this time than last. i'm a little confused. my body felt the same in terms of the amount of heat generated, but my muscles just crashed. i don't know for sure, but i think it's just cuz i didn't wait long enough between cycles. i couldn't get my hands on any clen, so i just did another cycle of dnp. i'll check out animal's info right now.

montecristo412
03-11-2001, 08:03 PM
ok, just did a search and couldn't find it. actually this thread didn't even pop up when i entered dnp in the key words section of the anabolic zone forum.???

lifetmpnx
03-13-2001, 07:36 PM
This is something Animal put out, I take no credit. It is floating freely on the web so I dont think he will mind.....................................Feel Good while on DNP
A Post by Animal



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As you may already know you should be taking the following per day.

1200-1500mg magnesium in 2 divided doses.
2-3000mg vitamin C.
1200IU of vitamin E
200mcg of selenium.
1000-2000mg of calcium (can't take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed)
Melatonin if you can't sleep and it is also one of the best anti-oxidants.

I felt like **** when I went above 400mg and sweat profusely on 600mg and 800mg which lasted for 2 days. I weigh around 95kg (210).

Here is what I am taking:
600mg of DNP which would be 6mg/kg which is well above the recommended 3-5mg.
You have to divide it into two doses of 300mg 12 hours apart.
After you hit your 600mg limit you don't take the next 300mg for 36 HOURS From the first dose!
So, if I took the first dose at 6AM on Sunday morning and the second 300 mg at 6PM Sunday night, the 3rd dose would not be until 6PM on Monday evening. The fourth dose would again follow 12 hours from the 3rd which would be at 6AM on Tuesday morning.

I am also taking ECA with this just for fun although at only 2 x a day for the ECA.
How am I not sweating all over the place and not feeling like **** and/or dehydrating in the middle of summer while going on hour or longer rides in 85 plus heat?. Let me tell you again that I hated the way this **** made me feel.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE GLYCEROL AND PYRUVATE!
I don't know if you can take one without the other because I was using the glycerol (G) and pyruvate (P) to enhance endurance and stem dehydration which I am very prone to. I think, however, that you will have to do them both as there is a synergistic benefit. I have taken G alone and while you have more water to hold on to, you just seem to sweat more. The G-P let me drink ½ my normal volume of water on a ride and that is what made me try the DNP ECA experiment.

Glycerol dose. YOU ONLY NEED 1 TABLESPOON 3 TIMES A DAY! One in the morning, one in the afternoon and one right before bed. **** that **** where those idiot researchers tell you to take 1 gram for every kg bodyweight. They are idiots and obviously have never taken it or asked the athletes how they feel. Let me tell you, you feel like ****! You feel bloated and sometimes get a headache and you **** A LOT! 1 tablespoon 3 times a day comes out to ½ what they recommend to take 2 hours before an event. The glycerol keeps your muscles hydrated and limits the sweating. It will fight the dehydrating effects of the ECA. As we know, DNP is carbohydrate specific and glycerol also is a carb source that can't go to fat. Glycerol also increases power output which may be an added benefit of the type of carb source it is. (Don't quote me or call me on this carb source because I don't really care what you think. All I know is that it works and I don't have the time to look up the frigin' mechanisms)

Before I explain the P, let me tell you that glycerol and glycerin are the same damn thing! A good recipe for taking your glycerol is 1 packet of Kool-aid, 1/8 cup sugar, 1 T glycerol and 32-4oz of water. The glycerol makes the kool-aid taste like OJ because there are alcohols and fermentation products in the OJ which the glycerol mimics.

Pyruvate dose. 2-5grams a day. Start out at 900mg or so 3 times a day and go up from there. I am at 1.5mg 2-3 times a day and if you don't work your way up it will give you gas and the runs.
As I mentioned above, I think the P is working synergistically to hold on to the water in your muscles. Additionally, it is an energy source and/or it is manipulating the Krebs Cycle intermediates (?) and allows for a different energy production pathway without going through the whole rigamorole. (Again, I don't care what you think or what the exact mechanisms are. I know it changes/manipulates an ATP/energy pathway and decreases lactic acid output and if it ain't the Krebs cycle I don't really give a ****. It works.)

Now you have a recipe on how to feel good on an overdose of DNP! To recap you need:
3 Tablespoons glycerol 3x a day.
1g Pyruvate 3x a day.
DNP at 36 hour intervals.
If you start to feel bad, just drink some sugared pop or take some glucose or maltodextrin with your psuedo-OJ mix.
The only drawback is that you will still smell rather bad and will emit a vinegar type odor although you won't be sweating all over everything. If you notice you are starting to sweat more it is time for another glycerol dose.


I believe that adding dihydroxyacetone (DHA) could also improve this, but I don't know where to get it.

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