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kat
02-21-2001, 12:14 PM
I have a curious question:

Most of the lifters I know don't use gear. In fact, I don't personally know anyone in my circle who does.
These guys are serious, lift heavy, eat right, but even though they're big and strong they look...well...squishy if you know what I mean. I also am sort of squishy looking.

When you see guys who look like they're chipped out of concrete is that just diet? Or is it gear? I seem to vaguely recall hearing about some sort of gear that "hardens" the muscle.

I asking merely for knowledge, not for use. If its a dumb question, I apologize.

Paul Stagg
02-21-2001, 12:59 PM
More than likely, it is bf%.

The_Chicken_Daddy
02-21-2001, 01:00 PM
Well Kat, that is just the slabs of iron that they tuck under their skin.

They don't actually work out y'know...

body
02-21-2001, 02:53 PM
Steroids allows lean body mass to be gained at a lower insulin level therefore gaining less fat in the process allowing you to stay leaner.
there are other reason as well.

Shaggy
02-21-2001, 04:15 PM
WINSTROL.....

Always makes my muscle hard!

http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net5/smhuh.gif

IBLiftin
02-21-2001, 09:10 PM
I just use good ol' viagra when i need to get nice and hard. LMAO!!!!

kAto
02-22-2001, 08:44 AM
"muscle hardness" is genetically determined. those who posses such hardness usually have really dense muscle consisting of more fibres per certain area. ive got a friend with a ripped 48 inch chest, and its soft as hell, on the other hand i know a guy who has 44 inch and is rock hard. yes they both juice.

although this trait is genetically determined, there are ways such as oxandrolone, winstrol, halo, that make your muscles harder by stripping away acces water from the skin as well as your muscles. if youve ever cycle anavar you would realize that you shrink a little due to the duiretic effect. but the plus about his is that you become alot harder.




peace

kat
02-22-2001, 09:24 AM
thanks :)

IBLiftin...you're so old you need viagara? Poor man. LOL

Chris Rodgers
02-22-2001, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by kat
thanks :)

IBLiftin...you're so old you need viagara? Poor man. LOL


It's not that he's so old, it's from the AS abuse! ;)

IBLiftin
02-23-2001, 03:45 AM
Funny, Actually viagra don't work a crap for me. Not that i need it to though....

kat
02-23-2001, 09:02 AM
I'm just razzing you IB....I know you are the manliest of men...I cower in your presence. :D

Chris Rodgers
02-23-2001, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by IBLiftin
Funny, Actually viagra don't work a crap for me. Not that i need it to though....


Everyone who doesn't need it still tries it! Yeah, ok buddy! hehe, j/k bro

David
02-23-2001, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by IBLiftin
Funny, Actually viagra don't work a crap for me. Not that i need it to though....

Dude, how old of a guy are you?

IBLiftin
02-23-2001, 06:06 PM
Dude, I'm like 25 man....

Abombs
02-24-2001, 04:07 PM
Geez IB..these guys really jumped on you huh? You natural queers need to chill. lol

Chris Rodgers
02-24-2001, 05:39 PM
Natural queers, eh?


Remeber, you gear heads are the minority in this place. You can take your natural bashing remarks elsewhere. :)

Pup
02-25-2001, 07:52 AM
Now Now young-ens, no need for that. We are all part of the same community, we are bbers and plers. Gear or no gear, it still takes a lot of hard work and dedication, try to remember that. I myself have not yet ventured to the land of gear, but a cycle of clen seems to be imminent in my future.

kat
02-25-2001, 09:24 AM
Yeah, what he said. Plus if I wanted the answer from the natty's, I would have asked upstairs. (No offense Paul, youknow I love ya)...stop picking on the gear guys, you're giving us a bad name.

(aside to herself...crazy mofos, like a bunch of chihuahuas poking a Rottweiler)

Abombs
02-25-2001, 01:35 PM
Some people just feel intimidated so they need to lash out to try and make themselves feel better. It's the computer toughguy syndrome. Everyones a 300lbs monster tucked away in their bedroom in front of their computers. I just don't like to see you guys taking stabs at people when unprovoked, like what just happened. That's all.